I saw that Obarun existed, and without Systemd. So I installed it in a VM to test it and it worked out great! Neat and lean and fast. The opposite of bloated even with Xfce as DE. Yes I'm an Xfce guy since Ubuntu started with Unity many moons ago. I've always had a few machines running and it's been Ubuntu and Arch on them. Some years ago I quit Arch in favor of Xubuntu because of time issues.
I haven't done Windoze in many years. It's so frustrating to see the whole world falling for crap. It's a parallell to Systemd I think. Many distros adjusted to it and it just took over. The cup ran over when I noticed that systemd had taken over resolveconf and slowed surfing down by pointing to 127.0.0.53. It was a small endaevour to get rid of that and take control again, but it sped up my surfing alot.
Installing Obarun was fun indeed! Luckily I remembered some of my Arch knowledge and managed to format and partition correctly for the installer. After installation I always try to check for unecessary services and that was interesting! For a newcomer there are a lot of "66-commands"! I had to ask on this forum for guidance just to list running services, but I got excellent help form eric. Although I managed to disable a service by myself. And there aren't many services running per default on Obarun.
Next small annoying problem was that in the terminal the cursor always was at the beginning of a line. Very confusing at first. It took some googling to understand that $SHELL was set to zsh and I'm used to bash! I fixed it and it's great. But it shows my newbie level, I think.
Beginning in a VM is a bit to play on the safe side but I think I will wipe my music studio machine and install Obarun on it. I think it will be ok since I compile the DAW Ardour myself, which is the main app on that machine.
I think eric does a very very nice job and it is invaluable to have this alternative. I'm very sceptic about Canonicals choices for the future (snap, netplan and more...). And Arch going to systemd.
By the way, this forum as way better than most I've seen - both the interfaces and the function. Good choice!
Be Safe all!
/Mr Åke Svensson, Sweden
I haven't done Windoze in many years. It's so frustrating to see the whole world falling for crap. It's a parallell to Systemd I think. Many distros adjusted to it and it just took over. The cup ran over when I noticed that systemd had taken over resolveconf and slowed surfing down by pointing to 127.0.0.53. It was a small endaevour to get rid of that and take control again, but it sped up my surfing alot.
Installing Obarun was fun indeed! Luckily I remembered some of my Arch knowledge and managed to format and partition correctly for the installer. After installation I always try to check for unecessary services and that was interesting! For a newcomer there are a lot of "66-commands"! I had to ask on this forum for guidance just to list running services, but I got excellent help form eric. Although I managed to disable a service by myself. And there aren't many services running per default on Obarun.
Next small annoying problem was that in the terminal the cursor always was at the beginning of a line. Very confusing at first. It took some googling to understand that $SHELL was set to zsh and I'm used to bash! I fixed it and it's great. But it shows my newbie level, I think.
Beginning in a VM is a bit to play on the safe side but I think I will wipe my music studio machine and install Obarun on it. I think it will be ok since I compile the DAW Ardour myself, which is the main app on that machine.
I think eric does a very very nice job and it is invaluable to have this alternative. I'm very sceptic about Canonicals choices for the future (snap, netplan and more...). And Arch going to systemd.
By the way, this forum as way better than most I've seen - both the interfaces and the function. Good choice!
Be Safe all!
/Mr Åke Svensson, Sweden
