I am still in the evaluation stage, so I am not sure if I will use obarun, or exactly for what. But I'm ready to start testing it in a VM.
I want to thank you for creating obarun, one more last bastion of hope for relief from the dreaded onslaught of unnecessary "improvements" to the Linux platform. As you can tell from my username, I am not a fan of systemd and its components. Some people seem to think this is some sort of petty war that someone started just to be kinda different or something. Having been using systemd and its attendant other parts on Mageia since V5 of that distro, I can tell you firsthand this is not a case of needing to blow a lot of wind. It is outright irritating, especially as the community was never polled to determine if such a change was even really needed, but if so, how to best proceed. Since when does a committee of one dictate what millions of long-time, devout Linux users should require? I miss being able to simply grep my logs for whatever I need. If better tools are needed for grokking out desired information, that could certainly be addressed, but maybe with something a little simpler and less tedious. I hate obfuscation, especially of something as basic and essential as logfiles. (I think there are now some replacements for the logging backend, but at this point...)
This is certainly not in the best tradition of GNU and Linux and open source generally. One is free to create anything they like, and I will not stand in their way, but decisions that affect everyone in a HUGE user community need to be carefully sorted out well ahead of time. Consider what would have happened if, one day, the IEEE decided that Internet V4 was now replaced by V6 and all 4 or 5 billion users on this planet need to switch over immediately, learn the new protocol and routing, and accept any and all defects that might come with it. And, oh, just in case anyone has a problem with it, the head of IEEE gave their blessing to go ahead with this, without consulting even the IPV6 working group. Thus, it is so. That makes it gooooood. At very least, a migration plan would have been nice. The grub people gave us plenty of time, and so have the people working on X11 replacements. None of this is being forced down our throats. This move was just pure arrogance.
At any rate, I'm glad to hear that you guys and the gentoo folks and some others (alpine?) haven't gone stark raving mad like the rest of the Linux herd. Thank you for doing this. I will try my best to learn obarun and put it to best use. Good to know there are a few safe places left on the software planet.
I want to thank you for creating obarun, one more last bastion of hope for relief from the dreaded onslaught of unnecessary "improvements" to the Linux platform. As you can tell from my username, I am not a fan of systemd and its components. Some people seem to think this is some sort of petty war that someone started just to be kinda different or something. Having been using systemd and its attendant other parts on Mageia since V5 of that distro, I can tell you firsthand this is not a case of needing to blow a lot of wind. It is outright irritating, especially as the community was never polled to determine if such a change was even really needed, but if so, how to best proceed. Since when does a committee of one dictate what millions of long-time, devout Linux users should require? I miss being able to simply grep my logs for whatever I need. If better tools are needed for grokking out desired information, that could certainly be addressed, but maybe with something a little simpler and less tedious. I hate obfuscation, especially of something as basic and essential as logfiles. (I think there are now some replacements for the logging backend, but at this point...)
This is certainly not in the best tradition of GNU and Linux and open source generally. One is free to create anything they like, and I will not stand in their way, but decisions that affect everyone in a HUGE user community need to be carefully sorted out well ahead of time. Consider what would have happened if, one day, the IEEE decided that Internet V4 was now replaced by V6 and all 4 or 5 billion users on this planet need to switch over immediately, learn the new protocol and routing, and accept any and all defects that might come with it. And, oh, just in case anyone has a problem with it, the head of IEEE gave their blessing to go ahead with this, without consulting even the IPV6 working group. Thus, it is so. That makes it gooooood. At very least, a migration plan would have been nice. The grub people gave us plenty of time, and so have the people working on X11 replacements. None of this is being forced down our throats. This move was just pure arrogance.
At any rate, I'm glad to hear that you guys and the gentoo folks and some others (alpine?) haven't gone stark raving mad like the rest of the Linux herd. Thank you for doing this. I will try my best to learn obarun and put it to best use. Good to know there are a few safe places left on the software planet.
