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Eric, from the systemd adoption I can see that there is quite a bunch of packages that begin to be dependent on systemd. I see that you are trying to keep them clear of systemd. I asked the guys from Dragora how are they handling this and they suggested to find alternatives, that is packages that are not being dependent on systemd. Now ... while this seems to be the best option ... it does work on the assumption that there will be alternatives and the alternatives will not depend on systemd. I feel like your approach is more realistic but still ... now you have like 15 packages that depend on systemd what will you do when there will be 50 or 100 ? Is still feasible ? I would very much like to hear your thoughts on this.
eric
It's just a question of time. Maintaining a complete distro take a time but it's not impossible. Depends of the number of persons that works on it too. one hundred package at maintaining for one man is difficult, take a time yes but not impossible. However make packages is not the only thing needed for a project : site maintaining, answer to people on the forum, provide more feature and simplicity, and so one.
Many people are afraid about systemd intrusion but it sound like a french philosophy for me : "cry and make nothing". I'm a french man yes, but i don't accept this philosophy. Obarun work and work very well. May be one day, people will open their eyes and say : " hey, it's a good project and it's work. I'm going to offer a part of my time to help him".
the time will tell us.
So don't be afraid, i'm going to fight as long as possible to not use systemd because... well, the system work like a charm :).
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Eric this is very true ... I am offering my help ... my Linux knowledge doesn't go as deep ...
Well fight and dedication are good. What I am trying to say is not a critique ... I am trying to understand what are your thoughts on this, I've read some others as well ... I see a LOT of fragmentation in the Linux space ... it was so from the beginning ... but now I guess it got even more ... Comparing to BSD for example I guess there is a lot of duplicate work ... in all kind of mundane tasks ... Frankly there is been a year and a half since the systemd stuff ... People who took a stance into this and rolled out their init system or forked ... kind of happened I guess. There are other people with *nix background that didn't bought into the systemd model because of the intricate complexity. Others will surely follow but ... I am realistic towards this ... I guess the number of people doing this is going to be small ... spread across the versions is going to be even smaller. I feel that the work to stand the test of time, in the foreseeable future, needs some sort of automation ... and keeping the amount of work to a minimum ...
I will dig deeper into the matter if I have more info to come up with and can actually contribute I will gladly do so ...