github, nooooooooooooooooooo
this is going to speed up the next (non-debian) version of mkfigos, (2.9 which is doing fine, thanks. actually moving forward very nicely.) because mkfigos pulls stuff in from github. im NOT giving microsoft write access to the latest version of mkfigos, regardless of the fact that they wont likely use it! horrible.
which part of this was my fault? well, people did say "use gitlab, dont use github." why? because you host / control gitlab, they dont.
to everyone suggesting "little" hosts: really be careful about this. microsoft went after the big guy, they can take little hosts offline (they dont even have to buy them. just push them off.)
you need a host thats:
a. dedicated to software freedom (or you wont have it)
b. big enough to stick around for a while without making moves that are desperate/silly
c. dedicated to software freedom (or you wont have it)
note that the free/libre guys said this would happen.
i actually dont want to use gnu for this either-- but not because it isnt pretty. who needs a repository thats pretty? i have my own reasons for not wanting to use gnu for this.
still looking for alternatives, hopefully this thread will keep naming them.
"first your repositories, then your family members! everything has a price!" -- meet the new microsoft, its the same as the old microsoft
"we <3 linux" -- dont touch me!
should anybody think this is just plain old-fashioned bashing, ive spent time talking about how free software (debian, non-systemd, lots of things) is in a constant state of diaspora right now--
that even if we beat systemd, it already gave monopolies several years of time to move against us. now we have to move from github too!
microsoft doesnt do things on a whim, this is another play in a playbook. microsoft actually spends years coming up with stuff like this. all to fight what we stand for.
how different is this from their old playbook? not very. it still works great! different rhetoric, same game. yes, you can acquire free/open software:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents# List_of_documents
good news: oracle succeeded (openoffice) and failed (libreoffice.) but as i said, this still gives them years of setting us back:
https://www.suse.com/c/news/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement/
we are actually competing with microsoft now. this isnt about marketshare though, its (as usual, as it always was) about the survival of our rights to our own work-- and to collaborate on software. thats what we are competing with microsoft for. and its exactly what they are competing (very deliberately and methodically) against.
millions of projects on github suddenly have no home. thats the real headline. "oh, but real homes for people matter a lot more than homes for software" OF COURSE THEY DO! (typo fixed.)
but the fact that most of these projects (including fig os) are homeless now is the real headline. fortunately for me, fig os is shacking up with sourceforge. but its not the same, its more of a friendly thing, more like a second office, not really a home. sure-- id rather live in an office and sleep under my desk than be worse off. but its no way to do well in life.
we actually want free software to do well! because in theory at least, it helps everyone.
Quite happy to see Obarun making no compromises on software freedom. Good luck in finding a new good place for your amazing creation, Eric!
this. also notabug looks like the best thing mentioned this far. like before i switched to devuan (for 3 years) i am going to spend a little more time looking at options, but i do NOT want to stay on github either. good luck everybody.