Had my first dose of Chinese vaccine today . Kept me dizzy the whole day , mild tiredness. Lets see how it works inside my body . I had covid infection in June in first wave.

Has anyone got vaccine too? What are the thoughts about it?
I'm not getting it, it seems the powers that be, regard the general population too much as guiney pigs at our expense& at the profit of big pharmaceutical companies whose research is/was partly funded by taxpayers ironically.
ill wait for awhile before ill think about getting it, and probably wont get it at all, at least atm...
My speculation is that the latest mutations of sars-cov2 are a sign the virus is about to vanish. I don't think there will be any evidence of it by mid-late March. Politicians are cashing on the good news pretending it is decreasing due to their measures and still trying to justify the expenditure of vaccines they have already committed to.

But in 2-3 years it will reappear and it will be worse.
It's a very bad vaccine , I'm feeling same sickness when I had covid infection. And I heard second dose will give me more side effects . D@ # $mn virus and it's vaccine .
You seem to trust western medicine more than I do, and just because the vaccine came from China doesn't mean it is not "western". I haven't heard epidimiologists come out and explain this rapid decline in cases and deaths yet, in any country, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ ... my interpretation is those mutations have made the virus milder but more transmissive. So there are more people that have it but have no symptoms now than 6 months ago. For 9 out of 10, I am speculating, the virus has no symptoms, and this is becoming more prevalent with mutations.

Unfortunately those with a weaker immune still get tortured. Why is it so prevalent to have a weakened immune? because there are so many antibiotics in meat and poultry these days, industrial meat, where to avoid risks of contamination they use heavy dosage of anti-b. so animals can't get sick. It makes meat production more profitable under the conditions they raise animals.

Instead politicians will breefly portray the defeat of cov. as their victory, through their measures and mass vaccination, short lived immunity for a virus that has vanished on its own.
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There is no virus. The shots are not vaccines: they are experimental and harmful gene therapies. The far greater experiment is the social conditioning and seeing what level of power grabs they can get away with.

I have reams of evidence to support all three of these facts. I am sad whenever I hear that someone allowed their body to be compromised in that way.
I disagree with the first part, there is a virus, and if you do get infected most likely you are going to suffer. I know at least 2 people around here, one is a physician the other in another technician in a medical field, they thought they were going to die and had never been so sick in their life. They managed not to get to a hospital and struggled with it. 6-9mos later they still don't feel the same as before.

Power/wealth grabs have always been on the agenda, the pandemic legitimized the grabbing and legal transformation. 150yrs of hard fought rights and defenses for the under class were wiped away, and the ways to get them back are all ineffective.

Modern capitalism/neoliberalism can utilize any form of crisis to gain and expand the privileges of a global super capitalist class at everyone else's loss.
There is no virus.
really, spreading of misinformation and disinformation should have not been entertained and outright banned!!!
There is a disease-causing agent out there, maybe the word "virus" triggers some people.

All in all we have immune systems& there are cheaper ways that "the powers that be" could've chosen to deal with whatever disease-causing agent is current out there like ivermectin & another controversial but cheap anti-malaria medication. These were "accidentaly" discovered to give any human body more time to get natural immunity to combat the current disease-causing agent.

Accidental discoveries are some of the best discoveries, so it raises eyebrows why they chose the method that is popular,highly recommended&overly advertised as the "best" way to deal with aforementioned agent.
Wherever you have massive mono-culture in nature (the earth's surface is the only known life) there is guarantee there will be a natural reaction to revert balance and end "mono-culture". Dumb humans believe we can survive alone, with no bacteria, no micro-organisms, no pests, no unneeded plants or animals, just those we grow to eat and kill. Humanity in urban centers is becoming a monoculture of its own, it is not just soy or corn, or beef. Eventually there will be a pest that will attack this monoculture and there is nothing humans can do to revert it.

Ecologically, we are not just committing suicide, we are accelerating the process for the suicide to occur. Unfortunately we are killing many other forms of life on our path to destruction. Look around you, in my town a couple of months ago 100s were dying a week, the law for mandatory masks was not even lifted, and people are mostly going around maskless. Today I walked into this store where the guy that owns it got sick really bad, and 3 months ago his father also died. He is not wearing a mask and people walk in and out into this tiny space.

The world is not ready for obarun :)
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There is no virus.
really, spreading of misinformation and disinformation should have not been entertained and outright banned!!!
First of all, saying that what I stated 'is misinformation' isn't an argument - it's not even any kind of point at all, really. If you believe that there is a virus, you need to demonstrate proof of its existence. Good luck with that. The so-called 'top scientists' have failed to do that, as per my link above.

Second, have you ever thought long and hard about what kind of world results from a situation where every unsavoury viewpoint gets banned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDap-K6GmL0
In my country, there is definite problem. People are dying.

Those nearest to my family are well, but they all got vaccinated. However, there *were* several extended family members and friends that refused to get vaccinated. They contracted COVID19 and were hospitalized. Bless their souls. They were not bad people, just opinionated and not interested in facts.

Most of us got Pfizer. The first one didn't have any adverse effects. The second felt like a very mild cold or flu that lasted less than twenty-four hours. I slept it off. Many don't have any symptoms. Others worse.

Sure beats being dead.
People die. That happened before, is happening now, and will happen as long as there are people. But there is simply no credible reason to think they are dying of a novel virus. The thing is, it doesn't take much independent research to learn this. I think most people are not only happy being ignorant, they actually oppose anyone suggesting they have been duped.
I disagree. The majority of individuals in my experience do not embrace ignorance and given an opportunity are open to learning from others better equipped through education, training, and experience on topics of import. Most people are capable of distinguishing between an opinion and an informed opinion and desire to be informed, be educated, and grow intellectually.

What saddens me the most is COVID19 is a small problem relative to climate change. As a species, our response to COVID19 has been dysfunctional and irrational far beyond a lack of preparedness. For our children's' sake, I hope that we pull our collective heads out of our bums before it is too late.
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I did a quick hunt for more information on the two topics. This is what I found.

https://facthunt.in/posts/1948/Fact-Check:-No,-Nobel-laureate-Luc-Montagnier-did-not-say-that-all-vaccinated-people-will-die-in-two-years

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/31/fact-check-covid-19-vaccine-not-associated-prion-disease/7053007002/

Motivation is one determining factor in me giving credence to sources of information.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anti-muslim-twitter-troll-amy-mek-mekelburg_n_5b0d9e40e4b0802d69cf0264

I, personally, would not give any credence to information provided by the RAIR Foundation. Their objective appears to disseminate information and disinformation to incite fear and hate.
I dont mind what site is hosting info so long as they are posting correct interpretations of what someone has said. In this case I was interested in what Prof. Luc Montagnier had said& dont think it should be ignored.

Notably his comments about Antibody Dependent Enhancement. Where antibodies, resulting after coronavirus vaccines, enhance the infection of the wild virus encountered after said antibodies have been produced.

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