I agree in principle.

Note the fact check also cites <i>The report also mentions that the professor is known for being anti-vaccinations, pro-homeopathy, and believes that “water has memory”.</i>

You have to decide for yourself if his prior statements demonstrate him as a reputable source of information.
He is a virologist& joint recepient of a nobel prize on something related to viruses, so I'm willing to bet alot on the fact that he understands what is going on.

He is simply trying to summarize certain publications that coincide with his own observations and findings notwithstanding his other hypotheses.

Publications such as:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34656289/

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mBio.01987-21

https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext

He is also not the only scientist, with understanding of what is going on, against what has been decided to be the best way to deal with SARS-Cov-2 and its variants. There are thousands of scientists, who think it could have been dealt with better by other ways.
@ Galeano, I appreciate you sharing your perspective.

I am agreement that one important component to this mess is behavior. Look at this thread. Plenty of examples of folks including me grasping at *something* to support their position, widely different opinions, disagreement on the facts, and non sequiturs.

Everyone keep striving to be informed and exercise your critical thinking skills.

I wish you and your family well.
https://youtu.be/Ck4ap9mb-H4

I don't agree with everything George Carlin said, but I sure agree that American people and alot of "western"-born people are neurotically obsessed with an illusion of safety in exchange for autonomy. This is what prevails and allows so much omission of facts, to satisfy an illusion of safety.
I miss George Carlin. The man was genius!

Thank you for sharing the link.
Still no uptake on the article I posted earlier about how the so-called virus hasn't even been properly identified. There are also hundreds of articles and studies that conclude NO ONE has any actual virus to show anyone. These are easily found, even with the Ministry of Truth algorithm of Google Search.
Again, even the most cursory examination of the statistics shows that less than 4% of the people SAID to have died from 'the virus' can even be SAID to have died FROM the virus (as opposed to WITH it), even if such a pathogen exists.

With this adjustment, we can see that what we are dealing with is AT WORST a bad flu and most likely a complete fabrication. Look at the statistics for Japan. That's the smoking gun.
Japan's remarkably good COVID19 statistics was because Japan was remarkably good in their response to the threat. Though Japan did have mishaps, they are an excellent model for others to prepare for future pandemics. Also, Japan had challenges with acquiring vaccines and distribution but is now striving to obtain "herd immunity" this year.

On comparing COVID19 to influenza, Japanese Medical Science Federation expressly states the mortality rate is higher than influenza.
25 days later
I took the time to review it, but it's heavily biased and much of their "facts" are questionable.

Also, I fact checked the source and one of their claims.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/scicheck-story-twists-facts-on-diagnosing-breakthrough-covid-19-cases/

I concluded it's not a source of information to be informed.

In a personal note from my Thanksgiving dinner with family, we lost another to COVID19. She refused to get the shot and left small children behind. I feel so sad for her children.
I agree that some of the facts are questionable but i look often at the data and i find the public information also uses a lot of fake news to terrorize people.
And this is a sign they have few real facts to talk about. In Italy are they talking about officially censor the information about covid, than we are in a war situation and people must accept some loss of freedom...
I am sure we can not kill all viruses and this one is not one of the worst. We should better increase our health system and make science together, not against the other scientist. And involvement of the big pharma in the official health control organs (CDC, WHO, EMA...) is also no good sign...
I am sorry for the sad occurrence in your family.
igorka67 wroteWe should better increase our health system and make science together, not against the other scientist. And involvement of the big pharma in the official health control organs (CDC, WHO, EMA...) is also no good sign...
We are agreement in these two statements. Any time big business gets involved, government and the public must ensure the needs of the public are driving decisions not corporate greed. I am not saying all big companies are greedy nor government officials corrupt, but if unchecked the public bears the burden of the resulting problems. Ugh.

I appreciate your kind words. Honestly, I didn't really know her well, but the extended family on my wife's side has a significant number of fearful and misinformed individuals. They are good people, but they are not getting vaccinated. I hope with the deaths that they are taking a step back and re-evaluating. Their choice but I feel bad for their immediate family.
It was interesting to read this thread.

It's like the locked thread on my trading platform's discussion board by its owner who has become an enthusiastic anti-vaxxer following his previous bias towards belief in conspiracy theories. I remember him telling me about things that had happened here in Australia which were rubbish - but its hard to tell when you are in the USA getting your news from the internet. And even harder to be convinced if you want to believe it.

It seems bizarre to me that intelligent people can believe this rubbish but I am reminded that we confuse our domain specific brilliance with knowledge of other areas. I won't try to convince you that:
- the virus is real
- big pharma, although profit motivated, are also motivated by the need to meet their market and not offend governments to the point of being regulated more heavily
- regulated capitalism and democracy, though flawed, are better than anything else we've found so far
- you should get vaccinated because, almost always, symptoms are mild, caused by your body learning to fight a new interloper, and much less likely to kill you than delta.

And before anyone starts on omicron and the reports of physicians that their patients had mild symptoms lets remember that
- most people who get covid have mild symptoms
- the problem is the accumulation of small numbers who end up clogging hospitals and sometime dying or getting long covid (and small numbers cease to seem small when it maims or kills someone you feel close to)
- 40 anecdotes is just a collection of anecdotes; its interesting but its not usable data.

We are at least weeks and probably months away from having reasonable understanding of the probable impact of omicron.
Sorry techore about losing one in your circle from what has been attributed to the SARS cov2.

The thing is, I suspect I lost my sister to side-effects of the vax that is supposed to give our immune systems defence practice against the aformentioned virus. So I disagree with kiwis 3rd point about symptoms being mild for everybody.

It is unfortunate that spike protein- known to cause adverse clotting- has been chosen as the molecule which our immune systems should react to in order to be prepared for the wild virus.

I recommend those who have been covid-vaxxed to check your blood for elevated d-dimer levels (indicating for increased risk for unenviable blood clots) which should be concerning. How long should elevated d-dimer levels be tolerated before they are a concern- is one of my questions with all that is going on.

I get that we want to feel safe, but companies that are supposed to help keep us "safe" should not make profit on the shoulders of tax-payers while being basically immune from litigation, if they want to be unquestionable.

There is a separation between scientific research & final product that should not be there.
Wat-now wroteSorry techore about losing one in your circle from what has been attributed to the SARS cov2.

I get that we want to feel safe, but companies that are supposed to help keep us "safe" should not make profit on the shoulders of tax-payers while being basically immune from litigation, if they want to be unquestionable.

There is a separation between scientific research & final product that should not be there.
Especially when the therapy go to mandatory!
I've amended my 4th point following the comment. Although proportionally a vaccine should be much safer than what it protects against, some people will have a bad experience. Assuming you live in a first world country Wat-now there should be a medical opinion on your sister's (sorry for you loss) death - does it provide any insight?

One thing noted in Australia was that after the initial spike, the rate of blood clot related death following vaccination was much lower than originally expected. Last comment I saw put that down to educated awareness of the possibility and preparation of the public health system to rapidly deal with any rare cases that occur.
I really didn't know a lot about the blood clotting, but the problem is real if uncommon.

From US CDC regarding J&J and blood clotting.
This adverse event is rare, occurring at a rate of about 7 per 1 million vaccinated women between 18 and 49 years old. For women 50 years and older and men of all ages, this adverse event is even more rare.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
So if my math is correct, blood clotting occurrence is 0.0007% for women.

If comparing it to COVID19's fatality, it's a bit challenging due to age and what period of time under discussion and location. Depending on the above it been as low as less than 1% and has high as 73% but those are the extremes.

I found the following useful to illustrate what was being seen.
..reported infection fatality rates have varied. To get a better estimate, Brazeau and his team looked at 175 studies, finding just 10 they regarded as reliable. They adjusted for confounding factors and calculated the death rate for each age group, including 0 per cent for under 4, less than 0.1 per cent for people under 40, 0.36 per cent if 50 to 54, 2.17 if 70 to 74, 5 per cent if 80 to 84 and 16 per cent for those over 90.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7834220/
The article is from November 2020, so I don't believe that it takes into consideration the current COVID19 variants and new anti-viral treatments. However, it still illustrates that COVID19 is more lethal than the J&J vaccine.

The CDC has a useful table that I find compelling on why I should get vaccinated for I am trending towards the right side, i.e. old :). It can be found at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html.
My sisters post-morterm is still inconclusive, so no cause of death has been found other than there was a adverse cardiac event contibuting- which I suspect was caused by blood clot. She was found unresponsive in a car that she had been in for hours:( and was unable to be resuscitated, dying in California, a state which has been known to have death cases gridlocked to conclusions from medical examiners.

How many deaths are still ruled out as being from the side-effects of Cov. vaccine because the causes are inconclusive, I wonder?

Finding a cause of death is complicated by other opportunistic ailments&diseases which work together to result in death.

Then why is it so easy to attribute a death to Cov. when other bugs took advantage of an already weakened state of the body? Usually in older people who would die from the flu or pneumonia anyway. Whereas relatively younger or healthier people have a rare chance of dying from Cov. - just as rare in my view as those who would have permanent adverse reaction to side-effects from Cov. vaccine.

I will take my chances personally and would rather my body build immunity from the virus directly rather than by spike-protein from Cov. vaccines.

Have any of you taken a d-dimer test lately? You probably are unlikely to, unless you have been prescribed blood-thinners before, but I recommend taking one to see if the clotting factors in your blood are within normal ranges.
I've no idea on d-dimer, but there is no harm messaging my physician and asking. I will ping her and see if it's been done as part of my annual physical and find out more. Thank you, @ Wat-now.

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