nfg sorry you were correct, I had forgotten to reinstall connman and I got the folder back. Yes, I tried to reload the dbus service after the reinstall, it doesn't help. When I enable and start the networkmanager service the dbus log shows Successfully activated service "org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher"and"Successfully activated service "fi.wl.wpa_supplicant"

    @nfg btw, do you have kind of a vanilla setup or did you install anything particular? Because my install is pretty fresh, maybe I'm missing some post-install package?

    sync and install the latest 1.16.0-5, the patch has been removed which prevented the legacy config which I think connman-gtk uses.

      Wat-now done, I also reinstalled connman and reloaded connmand and dbus, I still get the same behavior..So at this point maybe it's better to keep the patch :) what's really odd is that even downgrading dbus to 1.14 didn't work anymore (it did when I opened the issue for the first time though)

        Could anyone please try to build the connman git version from the aur and test it? I have tried to build it but it kept failing

          Maybe connmand should be started from the user tree and not from the root tree...
          Is this nonsense?

            igorka67 I might be wrong but the frontend file dictates the process to run as root, so the tree shouldn't matter.

              wastelander try cmst (in obocmmunity now) which should also communicate with connman and see if it works, because connman-gtk works on my system.

                  Wat-now I have exactly the same error:

                  
ErrorName:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied
Error Message: Rejected send message

                    what is the output of echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and what does your cat ~/.xinitrc look like?

                      Wat-now the output of the first command is Unix:path=/run/user/1000/dbus
                      In my .xinitrc I have:

                      #!/usr/bin/bash

if [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ] ; then
 for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/?*.sh ; do
  [ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"
 done
 unset f
fi

list=( $(ls -A1 /home/wastelander/.66/conf/svscan@wastelander | sort) )
for i in ${list[@]};do
    var=( $(</home/wastelander/.66/conf/svscan@wastelander/${i}) )
    for j in ${var[@]}; do
        export ${j}
    done
done

66 tree start

## Try consolekit
if 66-which -q ck-launch-session; then
    cmd="exec ck-launch-session $@"
else
    cmd="exec $@"
fi

## Select the session to start
${cmd} jwm"

                      That's my tree status:

                      Name        : global
Current     : no
Enabled     : yes
Allowed     : root
Groups      : admin
Depends     : None
Required by : session
Contents    : openntpd-log openntpd wpa_supplicant-log wpa_supplicant
              php-fpm-log php-fpm tor-log tor nginx-log nginx dbus-log
              dbus consolekit-log consolekit connmand-log connmand

Name        : boot
Current     : no
Enabled     : no
Allowed     : root
Groups      : boot
Depends     : None
Required by : None
Contents    : boot@system:system-hostname boot@system:mount-run
              boot@system:populate-run boot@system:mount-tmp
              boot@system:populate-tmp boot@system:mount-proc
              boot@system:mount-sys boot@system:populate-sys
              boot@system:mount-dev boot@system:mount-pts
              boot@system:mount-shm boot@system:populate-dev
              boot@system:mount-cgroups boot@system:mount-branch
              boot@system:system-hwclock boot@system:modules-kernel
              boot@system:system-random boot@system:modules-system
              boot@system:system-sysctl boot@system:udevd-log
              boot@system:udevd boot@system:udevadm
              boot@system:system-fontnkey boot@system:system-fsck
              boot@system:mount-fstab boot@system:system-branch
              boot@system:mount-rw boot@system:local-loop
              boot@system:local-authfiles boot@system:local-sethostname
              boot@system:local-time boot@system:local-tmpfiles
              boot@system:local-dmesg boot@system:tty-earlier@tty12
              boot@system:mount-netfs boot@system:local-branch
              boot@system:runtime-branch boot@system:canopy
              boot@system:tty-rc@tty1 boot@system:tty-rc@tty2 boot@system

Name        : session
Current     : no
Enabled     : yes
Allowed     : root
Groups      : admin
Depends     : global
Required by : None
Contents    : scandir@wastelander:setenv@wastelander
              scandir@wastelander:svscan@wastelander
              scandir@wastelander:svscan@wastelander-log scandir@wastelander
              boot-user@wastelander:mount-run@wastelander boot-user@wastelander

                      and my user tree:

                      Name        : global
Current     : no
Enabled     : yes
Allowed     : wastelander
Groups      : user
Depends     : None
Required by : None
Contents    : xdg-user-dirs dbus@wastelander-log dbus@wastelander pipewire-log
              pipewire pipewire-pulse-log pipewire-pulse wireplumber-log
              wireplumber

                      Output of groups:
                      wheel log network video audio optical floppy storage scanner power users rfkill wastelander

                        temporary workaround is #66 configure -e <youreditor> boot-user@<yoursystem> then edit DESKTOP_CMDLINE=dbus-run-session what-ever-you-use before #66 reconfigure boot-user@<yoursystem>

                        I dont know why some systems seem to need this and some don't, and I dont know why you didnt need it before the dbus update. dbus is a head-scratcher for sure

                          Wat-now thanks but the result is the same. When I run connman-gtk I have no more errors in the terminal but the GUI is still blank..

                              wastelander Interesting, I tried this in a system of mine having the same trouble and it worked.

                                  Wat-now It looks like my system is really out of luck:) but would it make sense to try dbus-launch instead of dbus-run-session?

                                      wastelander You may have to downgrade back to dbus-1.14.10-2, something is up with the permissions somewhere I suspect.

                                          Wat-now yes, I uninstalled dbus, wiped out the /usr/share/dbus-1 , downgraded to 1.14 and now its working. Wondering if we should patch connman to work with dbus 1.16 or the opposite.I also guess it's a permission issue, connman-gtk always works with sudo.

                                            • eric

                                            • Post #42
                                            • Edited

                                            This is a permission issue

                                            ** (connman-gtk:7668): CRITICAL **: 14:20:26.840: Failed to connect to connman: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.2349" (uid=1000 pid=7668 comm="connman-gtk") interface="net.connman.Manager" member="GetTechnologies" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.451" (uid=0 pid=3010 comm="/usr/bin/connmand -n --nobacktrace --nodnsproxy")

                                            For now, i don't found the fix.
                                            As you can see, the connection with dbus is made perfectly.

                                            • eric

                                            • Post #43

                                            Found it.

                                            edit your /usr/share/dbus-1/system.d/connman.conf as the following

                                            <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
<busconfig>
    <policy user="root">
        <allow own="net.connman"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Agent"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Counter"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Notification"/>
    </policy>
    <policy group="network">
       <allow send_interface="net.connman.Manager"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Agent"/>
    </policy>
    <policy context="default">
        <allow send_destination="net.connman"/>
    </policy>
</busconfig>

                                            Here, we add the <allow send_interface="net.connman.Manager"/> for the network group.
                                            If it's work i will change the connman package to implement the fix.

                                              eric after this change I can only see my current network in the UI, no other ones. Indeed in the terminal I have the same error as before preceded by Failed to scan Wifi
                                              UPDATE: I think I fixed it! (source: https://github.com/aldebaran/connman/blob/master/src/connman-dbus.conf). I edited connman.conf this way:

                                              <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
<busconfig>
    <policy user="root">
        <allow own="net.connman"/>
        <allow send_destination="net.connman"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Agent"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Counter"/>
        <allow send_interface="net.connman.Notification"/>
    </policy>
    <policy group="network">
       <allow send_destination="net.connman"/>
    </policy>
    <policy context="default">
        <allow send_destination="net.connman"/>
    </policy>
</busconfig>

                                              It seems to work fine now. Can you try it on your side?

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